(Dancing...)
(and all sorts of flings)
(The boys and girls of those days...)
(who did an excellent job in the harsh world of variety shows)
(She was the queen of ballad...)
(and variety shows,)
(but now she has an extreme job of being a mother.)
(Longing to come back in the variety scene, Lee Soo Young)
(A former sexy queen)
(I still got it!)
(The immortal sexy queen, Chaeyeon)
(A girl who swept the variety show scene with retro dance)
(Bae Seul Ki did try to go on a different path,)
(but she still hasn't gotten over the retro dance. )
(He has a pretty face,)
(but he showed an unexpected charm on variety shows.)
(Due to a long hiatus,)
(Kim Sang Hyuk always has to talk about his state of mind.)
(Today, we go back to the 2000s.)
(Let's go back...)
(to those days in our memories!)
(Are you all ready?)
("The Boys And Girls We Used to Love" begins now.)
Back in those days,
everything I said...
became a buzzword.
I was also selected as the most popular celebrity...
- "What?" was one of them. - since Korea was founded.
- "What?" - It's true.
- That's a fact. - Shim Hyung Rae was popular too.
- It was during those days. - Hyung Rae and you were on top.
Back in those days,
I was a singer known for my singing ability than a handsome face.
I signed with my agency on one condition...
which says that I don't make appearances on TV shows.
- That was a wise choice. - Wasn't that a natural condition?
- That was wise. - Some didn't reveal their faces.
- That's right. - Now I've got a handsome face also.
- Some didn't reveal their faces. - You've got a handsome face?
It was around 10 years ago. Back in those days,
I spent a great time with GREE on "Global Junior Show".
Those were the best days for me and my son.
- We were quite popular. - Right. Thanks to those days,
we've become the hosts of Radio Star.
We are a high-end program hosted by people who want to be loved forever.
We always end the show by saying "See you again, please."
- It's Radio Star! - Radio Star.
Today, we have four guests who used to dominate...
the variety show scene back in the 2000s.
It's "The Boys And Girls We Used to Love" special.
She looks innocent and pure when she sings,
but she falls into a trance when she's on a variety show.
Except for when she was singing,
she went about and had fun with her unique personality.
It's singer Lee Soo Young.
She's an expert in North Korean accent.
- She's really good at it. - She's good in Yanbian dialect.
She's an expert.
She's a variety show queen...
who swept the romance variety show scene with a sexy dance alone.
But the kids these days recognize her...
as the woman from the famous crying selfie.
"I miss those days." It's singer Chaeyeon.
- Chaeyeon's here. - Yes.
- Her real name is Jin Sook. - It's Lee Jin Sook.
- She doesn't like her real name? - She doesn't.
She doesn't like her real name.
When I called her by her real name,
she kind of ignored me.
So I looked up her name on the Internet,
and it was registered a s Lee Chayeon there too.
- Lee Chayeon? I see. - She changed her name.
- She changed her real name. - It's true.
She even had to go to court to change her name.
So we can't call her by Jin Sook.
(It's decided.)
When they hear the name "Seulgi",
they think of Seulgi from Red Velvet...
or Park Seul Gi.
However, in the early 2000s, she was the most well-known "Seulgi".
She became a person of the past as she loved retro dance so much.
It's Bae Seul Ki.
(Actress Bae Seul Ki)
She's the original retro dancer.
Kim Jong Min...
Oh, right. I have to read this part.
(Where did our youngest host go?)
We're short of one host.
- All right. - Can you manage his lines as well?
Of course.
He was the original clumsy man...
before Kim Jong Min and Lee Kwang Soo.
He's the original clumsy man and idol who's good on variety shows.
And he's the celebrity who talked about...
his state of mind the most in Korea. He's Kim Sang Hyuk.
- All right. It's good to see them. - Welcome.
- Hello. - Welcome.
- Come on in.
- It's nice to see you. - It's nice to see you.
- It feels weird to be in here. - It's been so long.
- It's nice to see you.
Soo Young,
why don't you greet the viewers first?
Hello.
I'm the queen of ballad, Lee Soo Young.
- Soo Young is here. - You refer yourself as the queen?
- That's impressive. - I've told you this before.
Thanks to Soo Young, one company became a listed enterprise.
(Ballad queen)
There was a company called Yiga Corporation.
- Really? - It became a quoted company.
- She's impressive. - She really is.
- Please introduce yourself. - Let's see.
Since Soo Young called herself the queen of ballad,
I want to refer myself as the queen of variety shows...
back in those days. I'm Chaeyeon.
- All right. - Chaeyeon is here.
- It's nice to see you. - It's awkward to say this.
I know you were on a lot of variety shows,
but I don't remember you having a good sense of humor.
(I don't recall it.)
- For me... - She just danced a lot.
It's because I was on a lot of romance variety shows.
- That's right. - I see.
It's nice to see you, Seul Ki. Please greet the viewers.
All right.
(Revving up)
(Singing a techno song)
Many people loved me for my retry-style dance. I'm Bae Seul Ki.
Your dance was quite simple.
- It's different from the old days. - She could hit the next person.
- It used to be more vibrant. - She's gotten older.
- The moves used to be bigger. - Let's move on.
I'm living the second chapter of my life.
I'm an invincible man who never wants to lose. I'm Kim Sang Hyuk.
- It's nice to meet you. - My gosh.
Your introduction was meant for your in-laws, right?
I have more responsibility now.
- When are you getting married? - On April 7.
- That's when he's getting married. - What day is that?
- It's on Sunday at 6pm. - Congratulations.
- Soo Young. - Yes?
This year marks the 20th anniversary of your debut.
I hear you're preparing to release an album after 10 years.
It's been 20 years since her debut.
- I... - Time flies for sure.
I couldn't release a new album or continue my career as a singer...
- for 10 years. - I know, right?
- You had to take care of your kid. - Right.
I got married and had a kid.
He's in second grade now.
I hear you're experiencing the hardships...
that celebrity managers go through. What does this mean?
Managers have to spend the whole day...
without taking a break...
- for one celebrity. - Right.
I'm like a manager of a kid who's in his second grade.
- It's really tiring. - That's great.
She's saying she's busy like a celebrity manager.
Of course. Moms are busy taking the kid to and from school.
They also have to wait outside.
And you even have to spend your own money.
That's right. I don't even get paid,
but I have to endure the criticisms from him.
- I always have to be on time too. - That's right.
It's really tough.
You pick up your kid from school?
- Of course. - She's a mother after all.
I hear you held a concert for elementary school kids.
When my kid was in first grade... Keep this in mind.
- It's a great tip. - "Keep this in mind."
- They'll soon become parents too. - There's a session at school...
where parents have to talk about what they do.
And I was selected to talk.
Since I'm a singer, I had to sing for them.
But my songs aren't appropriate for first graders.
How about "Whistle to Me"?
- That's not appropriate. - Of course.
"Love Scenario" by iKON...
- was the kids' favorite song. - Kids loved that song.
I prepared a Bluetooth microphone and went to the classroom.
I sang that song for them,
and they all sang along.
Really?
The atmosphere was great.
You know how you can sense a good vibe during concerts?
It makes you think, "Since the audience is enjoying..."
"the concert, I should try singing what I like."
It wasn't planned at all.
But I turned on the accompaniment of "Whistle to Me"...
- Of course. - and started singing.
Surprisingly, the kids were focusing on my performance.
- Really? - Yes.
Is that what made you think of releasing a new album?
Yes, that's right!
Chaeyeon. My goodness.
You're the queen of variety shows, but it's your first time here.
- Really? - Yes.
- It's your first time? - It is.
But you're the queen of variety shows.
Didn't you cry on our show? It feels like you did.
Because she got older?
It feels like she did.
I also feel like I did,
- but it's my first time here. - You've never been on our show?
- Really? - Yes.
I hear there's a specific reason...
why you can't be on variety shows.
Variety shows these days require a certain condition.
You have to be either living alone or married.
- And... - They tend to have reality aspects.
- it has to be somewhat realistic. - I agree.
But I realized I don't fall in any of those categories.
I live with my mom. I don't live alone.
I'm not even married. I didn't fit into any categories.
And she's too young to be on "Flaming Youth".
That's too much.
- Excuse me. - But that show's fun.
- "Flaming Youth" is fun. - It's about time for you to join.
That makes me sound a lot older.
No, "Flaming Youth" suits you.
You can be the youngest member on "Flaming Youth".
I want to take steps.
No, no. You'll soon be old enough.
- Many want to be on that show too. - How old are you this year?
- I was born in 1978. - She's 40.
- Then you can be on that show. - It's possible.
- I know. She can be on that show. - She's old enough.
- Will I be the youngest there? - Of course.
- That sounds fine. - I mean, it's better...
to be the tail of a dragon than to be the head of a rooster.
(What?)
- Isn't it better to be the head? - I think you switched them.
No, I was being ironic.
- Most prefer to be the head. - Isn't it the tail of a snake?
- Right. Anyway... - A snake?
Isn't it the head of a snake and the tail of a dragon?
Let's just move on, shall we?
It's not important anyway.
- Anyway... - You got what I meant.
- Right? - Yes.
(Nodding)
Sang Hyuk, you were on "I'm Sorry" special...
- four years ago. - Was there such a special?
- There was "I'm Sorry" special? - Yes, he was on our show.
What kind of a special is that?
You said you felt terrible because Gu Ra...
- was being too considerate. - Actually,
I was ready to be scolded harshly...
and to look back at myself after the show ended.
But Gu Ra was so considerate...
- and said it can happen to anyone. - Of course.
He told me it's okay.
If you...
If you seem too nice, it's not fun at all.
You have to be mean to our guests.
- That way, you can... - I've been mean for 50 years.
- Haven't I done enough? - No, you haven't.
- I wanted to be criticized. - Of course.
That was my intention,
but Gu Ra told me it's okay.
He even mentioned other celebrities...
and consoled me.
So my part was edited out.
- I know. - What happened was...
You should be harsher on them.
Have you noticed how I'm wearing green today?
These days,
I'm in the depression mode because of my menopause.
So I'm trying to see the best sides of people.
Besides, you're about to get married too.
I'll be considerate today also.
Don't be too worried.
No, you can criticize me if you want to.
- I mean... - Why did you suddenly change?
Come on.
Do you like being mistreated?
(Dizzy)
Seul Ki, you're into acting these days.
But you spend most of your time creating contents on YouTube...
and selling things on your blog.
- Right. - What's your channel called?
It's called TV Baeseul Baeseul Ki.
- TV Baeseul Baeseul Ki? - TV Baeseul Baeseul Ki?
That's a nice name.
- Is it? - Yes.
I had no other choice than to go with TV Baeseul Baeseul Ki.
Originally, I wanted to go with...
Bae Seul Ki TV.
But when I searched my name online,
there were many clips of me...
from 10, 14 years ago.
My channel wasn't on top, and there were too many clips of me dancing.
Your nickname when you were on "Love Letter" was Baeseul Baseul Ki?
That's right. Ho Dong came up with that nickname.
That's so like him.
He went, "Baeseul Baeseul, Bae Seul Ki!"
That's how he came up with that nickname.
(Baeseul Baeseul, Bae Seul Ki)
Sang Hyuk,
you have good news to share. You're getting married next week.
- Congratulations. - It's on April 7.
Thank you. We'll live happily.
Who will officiate your wedding?
- We don't... - You don't have an officiant?
There's no one we want to hear good things from.
(Honest)
That was great. That was funny.
Then who's hosting your wedding?
My friend from elementary school,
Jang Sung Kyu.
- Jang Sung Kyu? - I see.
I heard that you two went to the same elementary school.
What about them?
Won't the members of Click-B sing at your wedding?
The members of Click-B will sing at my wedding.
- What will they sing? - It's a song called "Dreaming".
That's the only song where I sing...
the chorus part, among all our songs.
Will you sing with them?
Yes, I'll sing with all of my members.
Isn't that supposed to be a surprise?
- No, it was made public. - I see.
(Honest)
What does this mean? You said you were...
dumped by your girlfriend every day when you two were dating.
(Hesitant)
I'm not sure if I can talk about that.
- Why not? - Why not?
Sang Hyuk's used to having self-reflection on shows.
You don't have to do that anymore.
This is why I'm being considerate.
- It's because... - How can I be mean...
to a person who's reflecting on himself?
It's because...
my girlfriend is a little tough.
- You're already scared of her? - I mean...
- I don't know how to put it. - Then...
will you be self-reflecting even when you're married?
- He's afraid of being scolded. - That's not it.
That's why he can't talk about it.
I don't get scolded by her.
- I think you do. - She doesn't scold me.
- It's become a habit of his. - Why were you dumped?
For what reason were you dumped?
Let me talk about the small incidents first.
Give us an instance.
When she travels from one place to another,
like after eating, she tells me where she's going next.
We tell each other where we are headed next.
But I sometimes forgot to tell her where I'm going.
Then she'd scold me really harshly.
My girlfriend is the type who likes staying at home.
When she does go out, she doesn't tell me where she's headed to.
So I scolded her just like how she scolded me.
But she wanted to break up, saying we aren't meant for each other.
So I told her that I'll try harder.
She wanted to break up with you because you scolded her?
I think we might fight if I talk about this.
- But your girlfriend... - She could've been hurt.
That's not it. Your girlfriend...
isn't the type who goes out every day.
But you scolded her when she went out...
- after a long time. - That's right.
"Do I have to tell you every single thing?"
- That's probably how she felt. - She's right.
Since she goes out only once in a while,
Sang Hyuk got worried, and that's why he scolded her.
My goodness. It's not like she's a five-year-old kid.
She takes care of herself well.
She doesn't even go home late.
But you have to keep reporting to her.
This kind of talk is meaningless...
because all you need to do is to check if the other one's alive...
after you're used to your married life.
(All you need to do is to check if the other one's alive.)
- I hear that's what happens. - You don't worry about it anymore.
As long as you have the bankbook under your name, everything's fine.
This is what I'm concerned about.
She'll probably get worse...
once they get married.
- Really? - Yes.
I agree to what Gu Ra said.
- She'll get worse. - I know. She'll get worse.
Does Susie scold you too?
I'm not talking about myself.
I know.
It's just my opinion.
(He's totally flustered.)
Why don't you carry around a GPS?
- You'd always know where she is. - You can use other options.
It looks like they'll argue before their wedding.
- No, no. We won't do that. - Of course.
Your mother-in-law would be like, "Why did you talk about that?"
I'm the type that makes her worry about me.
"Sang Hyuk, what's wrong with you?"
I hope she doesn't say that.
You see? It's more fun to have Gu Ra treat you harshly.
That's how your part gets aired.
(Thank you.)
Sang Hyuk, you recently...
- began a steamed bun business. - Really? Are you from Anheung?
- A steamed bun business? - Is he from Anheung?
- No, I'm not. - How could you ask...
- if he's from Anheung? - Look.
I only asked that because he started a steamed bun business...
out of the blue.
I hear you're also selling makgeolli bread.
I sell makgeolli bread, steamed bun, handmade dumplings, and so on.
How come you're into that business?
Let me explain. I tried running many different kinds of business.
And I struggled because I had to pay my employees and monthly rents.
- That's right. - That's how it is.
That's why I invested in my business...
with an expert...
so that we can make profits with the minimum revenue.
Then is he a steamed bun expert?
He's an expert in steamed buns and makgeolli breads.
- Makgeolli breads? - I see.
Is he a skilled expert? How is he?
He's not doing that well either.
He used to run an izakaya, but it went under.
What's the name of...
the steamed bun bakery? Did you name it after your name?
No, it's called French Steam Buns.
Why are you laughing?
- That's funny. - "French".
- We laughed because it was funny. - Right.
That's the name of the bakery?
His business stories are funny.
The guy with the failed izakaya...
- went to Paris, France. - He went to France.
- Is that why it's named that? - Did he learn that in France?
- So... - Did he bring the sauce from there?
- A sauce from France? - We just bought...
- flour from France. French flour. - He made it with French flour.
- French flour is organic. - French flour.
- I see. The flour... - It's French wheat.
I wanted to make it a retro-styled bakery like New York Bakery.
What about the red beans from France?
- No, we buy Korean red beans. - You buy domestic red beans.
- Is that so? - I must use Korean products.
Your buns are international.
- You always use chauffeur service. - I want to try one.
- Is that so? - Why?
- I'm known for my incident. - That's right.
When I go out to drink for private gatherings with my friends,
I hand over my car keys to the valet.
I would leave after saying hello.
Then, I would drive myself home.
Even if I drove without sipping a drop of alcohol,
the valet gave me his worried look from a distance.
He was worried if I'll be okay.
- He looked at me. - You didn't drink though.
He asked if I'll be okay.
I told him that I only came to say hello.
I was grateful because I could feel he was looking out for me.
But is it okay for you to sell makgeolli bread?
I can eat that. Isn't it okay as long as I don't drink and drive?
- I'm not consuming alcohol. - Will that affect the number?
- Probably not. - The alcohol gets fermented,
- so it gets evaporated. It's gone. - That's right.
It's because that he dearly paid for driving while intoxicated.
He experienced the result of drunk-driving...
and the birthday punches.
So you like this kind of jokes, right? This is it, isn't it?
I'm saying this because Gu Ra won't bring it up.
(Aren't you happy?)
Is that so?
Chaeyeon, you said that...
you didn't know Sang Hyuk during your preliminary interview.
- I don't know him that well. - Right.
- Sang Hyuk, but you found this... - With Chaeyeon?
- I... - very absurd.
- Really? - Actually,
whenever we meet after some time has passed,
she keeps using the honorifics like we're not friends.
- A long time ago... - Does she say, "Who are you?"
No. Thankfully, she doesn't ask me who I am.
Does she ask who you are?
But she must be losing her mind these days.
She even said hello to me like we were strangers.
- In my opinion, - No, no. Listen.
- We must address this. - Chaeyeon...
After you changed your name,
- did you become a different person? - Exactly.
- No. - Do you want to erase your past?
- It's not that. - Okay.
- I didn't debut at an early age. - Right.
- You debuted late. - I was in my mid-20s.
- You made your debut in Japan. - Yes.
Back then,
people used to lie about their age.
- That's right. - Back then, people lowered the age.
They used to be younger than me.
Nowadays, the Internet has improved a lot.
- Everyone came clean about the age. - They came clean.
- Suddenly, some were older than me. - Give us some examples.
- Well, people know it now. - Who...
There were a few famous ones.
There are several.
People like Hyeun Young?
Yes, there are several.
Some of them are my friends. There are several.
- So I can't treat people causally. - Soo Young...
I address them with honorifics first.
When they treat me casually,
only then I treat them casually. "How have you been?"
- But I knew her age. - Okay.
I already knew that she was five years older than I am.
- You knew it. - Yes, yes.
I used to be on a MBC radio show.
She joined the show as a regular guest.
She was on my radio show with Jong Kook.
- Is that so? - She was a regular guest.
- Do you not remember? - He said you were a regular guest.
- Her past is gone with a new name. - You were a regular guest.
I don't think she wants to erase me from her past.
No, I don't want that.
Why didn't you put the mole on the other side?
(As if you were a different person.)
When you were on "King of Mask Singer",
I called your real name.
She went, "My name is Chaeyeon."
(Sounding cold)
So I looked it up.
Her name was Chaeyeon.
I wondered what had happened.
- I found out you changed your name. - Yes.
I changed my name when I was making...
- my debut. - You do remember that, right?
- Yes, I do. - When I said...
your old name, "Jin Sook",
why were you so standoffish?
Actually, I don't have a sensitive reaction to my old name.
I think I was trying to be funny. To make it entertaining.
- You were trying to be funny? - Did my face stiffen?
- Yes, it did. - Is that so?
If you were trying to be funny, I would've played along...
- and said, "You're funny." - No.
(Her reaction hurt him.)
Actually, my acquaintances...
and college friends...
call me Jin Sook. That's why I don't think...
I would've reacted that way.
- I use Chae Sook for my stage name. - Right.
It's a combination of Chaeyeon and Jin Sook.
- Chae Sook. - Chae Sook.
Do I need to remember your name as Chae Sook too?
That just means that I'm not against that name,
Jin Sook.
- I must've misunderstood you. - Yes, yes.
I see.
- Don't be so negative about things. - I got it.
I thought you had a brighter perspective on life.
(I thought you had a brighter perspective on life.)
Sang Hyuk,
you wanted to ask Seul Ki a question...
- when you saw her. - When you saw her?
Did she disappoint you or something?
Seul Ki and I would only have a chat...
and ask about each other's life...
- at TV stations like now. - Okay.
- We've met a few times in private. - Yes, that's true.
- You remember that, right? - Yes, I do remember. That's why...
But she pretends she doesn't know me.
- Really? - I don't know why everyone does it.
- You too, Chaeyeon. - In private?
- Or in public? - I'm serious.
- I swear! I swear! - That was in private?
- I don't lie anymore. - Okay, Sang Hyuk.
- Let me explain why. - What is it?
- Your back is hunched like this. - It's not that.
This isn't it?
- That's not it. - It's not?
If I came here on a separate occasion,
- I could understand that. - Okay.
But I came here to film the same show.
- And she still didn't say hi. - Seul Ki didn't say hi?
She didn't. Do you not remember it?
It was in a private setting.
You've seen him, right?
- That friend... - Yes, that was my friend.
- She married a friend of mine. - Yes.
- I... - She saw me at that occasion.
I said, "Hello, Sang Hyuk".
I didn't hear you say hi.
- Oh, no. My goodness. - Is it possible...
that everything happened...
when you were taking time to reflect on your action?
Since it took me a long time to reflect on myself,
- that could have happened. - No.
- You like that people avoid you. - It's...
- It looks like... - I don't think people avoid me.
- I wasn't avoiding him. - Sang Hyuk.
Then, you could asked Seul Ki why she didn't...
- Yes? - say hello to you.
- That makes me sound bossy. - No.
- That sounds rude. - Right.
I thought I would ruin the mood.
That's why to tell you the truth,
I thought she wasn't happy about it...
because she was quiet...
when I was talking about this.
To think from your perspective, during your break,
you could have felt dispirited without realizing it yourself.
- No, but... - Was it your break season then?
(Unable to speak)
- I was just... - In Korea...
- Nothing was established for that. - In Korea,
he's one of the celebrities that took the longest break.
- There isn't a season for breaks. - You weren't?
- He's known for his breaks. - Right?
- Exactly. - I didn't mean to...
take a long break.
Her name is Jin Sook. His is Ja Sook which means break.
The public...
- That's it. - wasn't ready to welcome me back.
I was on a few shows,
but I continued to take a break to reflect on myself.
It's been lasting 13 years.
- Back in the day, - Your break lasted that long?
- there was a movie "Groundhog Day". - It's over now.
Whenever he woke in the movie, it was the same day.
(Reflecting on himself)
In my opinion,
given the nature of Seul Ki,
I don't think she ignored you.
- Right. - I wasn't mad or anything though.
- I'm sorry. - No.
What are you doing? You're making me a bad guy!
- I'm sorry. - Why are you doing this to me?
- It's not that! - I'm sorry.
- He kneeled down by default. - Listen.
That was not my point. Stop torturing me!
- Seriously. - I'm sorry.
- I'm really sorry too! - No, no.
- Don't apologize. - Sang Hyuk, get up.
Things like this can happen.
- I understand. - It's not that.
- Seriously. - Sang Hyuk.
- I should've said it louder. - We get it.
- We got it. - Listen.
- Accept her apology. - I should've said it louder.
- I heard from many people... - I mean...
that Seul Ki was very good-natured.
- But... - From what I know,
I'm sure Seul Ki thought talking to you would make you uncomfortable...
and was being considerate of you.
But I was hesitant to talk to him.
- I'm sure it was hard. - Exactly.
I'll tell you another story about Seul Ki.
- Spill everything now. - I'm sorry.
There was a precedent.
- There was a precedent? - What precedent?
It was when running your own mini websites...
- was getting popular. - Right.
I received a message from Seul Ki.
I'm not sure if you remember.
You don't remember this, do you?
- We have to go back that much? - I'll be the bad guy again.
- My gosh. - Go on.
The message said that she was giving me a chance...
to introduce her to her future husband.
She said we could be friends if things worked out.
- It was something like that. - What does that mean?
- I... - It sounds like a copy-and-paste.
- You introduced your boyfriend? - Hey.
- No. - It was about my future husband?
She wrote that I might be the one...
introducing her to her future husband.
- Sang Hyuk, I don't get it at all. - What...
- I can't understand it at all. - I don't even get the relationship.
I'm not talking about a story that you can't understand.
I'm just stating what I read.
- Okay, okay. - But it's been a while...
seeing him yell on a TV show like today.
I'm stating a fact.
- Sure, sure. - Okay.
What about you, Seul Ki? Do you not remember at all?
- This is... - I haven't been on there so long.
- Right. - Yes.
When you talk, you do this gesture a lot.
Why do you do this gesture?
- He wants a time-out. - This gesture.
(He does the gesture when he's flustered.)
(He desperately signals for a time-out.)
This shows that no one listened to him for all these years.
- That's why. - That's why he does this.
"That's not it. Hold on."
- He does this a lot. - He had...
too many time-outs during his career as a celebrity.
- He does this a lot. - So...
- He did have too many breaks. - Right.
- I'm sorry, but... - I heard you.
- It seems like you had... - Yes.
many time-outs with your girlfriend too.
- I do it when things get hectic. - Right. Right.
- I want things to calm down. - You know what?
- The misunderstanding is cleared. - Right. This is great.
You know... This isn't like...
I'm clinging onto her.
Stop there. Don't talk more than that.
Then, you should introduce me to my future husband.
Yes, I will set you up with a nice man.
- My future husband. - Right.
You should send him the message now.
(They cleaned up their past like a couple of cool people.)
Chaeyeon and Seul Ki are...
- in a bowling club. - You two play bowling.
- I saw it on TV. - Okay.
According to Seul Ki, when you play bowling, Chaeyeon,
you get so worked up.
- I get worked up? - Yes.
I see. I do have a bit of temper.
That's how sports are, you know.
If things don't go my way,
I don't get mad at others.
- I get mad at myself. - You're competitive then.
- Say that we're playing team games. - Right.
If one of my teammates is doing a terrible job,
- I'd get mad. - Then,
how do you get mad?
I saw her wrist wrap go flying one time.
(I saw it flying.)
- Her wrist wrap? She threw it. - She threw the wrist wrap?
(She expresses with her body.)
- I see. - I was livid.
- She doesn't yell or anything. - I...
- I try to hold back my anger. - She keeps her manners.
You damage property.
- Right, but it's my property. - She's...
- Right. - It's mine.
You got mad at Kim Soo Hyun too once.
We used to play in the same team.
He would make mistakes when the stakes were too high.
- He'd make mistakes? - Yes.
I'd yell at him...
before I could stop myself.
"So what you're famous in China?"
- Well... - "Is that all that matters?"
- I didn't say that. - "What should I do with you?"
(She's controlling the famous actor in China.)
- I do think I do that. - When you play bowling as teams,
the stakes aren't too high.
- It's like a dollar or something. - It's buying meals.
We get motivated to win over a dollar.
- Right. We don't want to lose. - You'd get competitive.
- It's the battle of pride. - Sorry to say this,
- but that's an off-limit topic. - Right.
I'm sorry.
- I'm sorry. - I'm sorry.
(You are watching a high-end music program, Radio Star...)
(without any topics of placing bets.)
What's your average?
My average is...
What I've seen, it's 190.
- What about you, Seul Ki? - That's pretty high.
Mine is 160.
- 160. - Stop lying.
- She's good at bowling. - Is that so?
- You bowl straight? - Our balls weigh 15lb.
- 15lb? - Yes.
- That's heavy. - We bowl with 15lb balls.
When I go to a bowling alley,
I use the pink one that weighs 9lb.
(He's a delicate soul.)
You are watching a high-end music program, Radio Star with...
celebrities that used to dominate the variety shows back in the days.
Today's special, "The Boys And Girls We Used to Love"...
will begin now.
These are the guests who used to sweep the variety shows...
- in the beginning of the 2000s. - Right. Beginning of the 2000s.
Soo Young, when you made a debut,
you weren't on any of the variety shows for the first three years.
- She was never on those shows. - That's right.
I couldn't be on variety shows.
Even if I did go on variety shows, my agency instructed me...
- to be quiet on the shows. - Right.
- Back then, that was the norm. - Right.
- I had to watch other people. - It'd mar your singer image.
- Yes, yes. - It shows another side of you.
Did you have an inner conflict about that instruction?
You could've thought you were funny.
Perhaps, you wanted to talk.
- It was very difficult. - I see.
- It was extremely difficult. - I bet.
Right.
When they were dancing,
I'd think that their dance wasn't entertaining.
- Your dance was more entertaining. - Yes.
I would think about other words...
that could make the stories so much better.
I think that was when I piled up my talents for variety shows.
I was so strong-willed to be on the shows.
I have a question then.
An event materialized your desires and you exploded with your talents.
Was it because of your dialect? Or was there another event?
- There was a show, "X-Man". - I see.
- That... - You were on "X-Man".
- Yes, that's right. - Yes, that's right.
Wasn't everyone on "X-Man"?
- I was on it. - Weren't you on "X-Man" too?
I was on "Beautiful Sunday" before "X-Man".
You've been on TV for so long.
(He has a long career.)
Anyway, that was when...
I moved my agency after maturing my contract with the first one.
- I was finally on variety shows. - You joined those shows.
Soo Young, you said that you were...
slightly scared to be on "X-Man" in the beginning.
- We had a game, "Of Course" there. - Yes, I remember it.
(It's a mind-boggling game where you must answer with...)
("of course" to your opponent's provocative questions.)
(The point of the game is teasing your opponent...)
(to cause them a mental breakdown.)
But I had a reputation to uphold.
Back then, during the game,
you had to attack other people's weakness...
- Right. - or tease them.
I had to be mean.
I'm good-natured to begin with.
(Of course...)
- If I play that game, - She's good-natured?
- it might ruin my singing career. - Right.
- That's why. - People were concerned about it.
- That's why. - You had a lot to think about.
But I still played the game.
Somehow, I ended up becoming the queen of the game.
I took a totally different approach.
You must choose between Yu Jae Seok and me...
for your man. Which one?
You're asking if which one of Dumb and Dumber is funnier?
(She'd attack them calmly.)
(She became the Queen of "Of Course" Game.)
Back then,
that game wasn't that hard.
They'd make people hang onto the pull-up bar.
I went up against her.
I went up against Chaeyeon,
but I lost.
I just remembered that.
- I didn't lose that many games. - I suddenly remembered it.
- I see. - All of a sudden,
her legs came up above my head.
- They made us do that. - They played a lot of games.
(Actually, when she kicked him twice,)
(he fell off the bar.)
(Looking lame)
Chaeyeon, back then, when the cameras started rolling,
you'd go crazy?
I think I did.
I was a regular member on both "X-Man" and "Love Letter"...
- at the same time. - Okay.
Every week,
I was in love.
(Short-term dating without breaks)
- Back in the day? - You were with Jong Kook too.
- Yes. - You were with Jong Kook.
It wasn't just him.
- You had a lot of partners. - Yes, I did.
When guests were joining the show,
we'd do the love-matching stick.
- You'd look at him in the eye. - Yes, I'd do that too.
- And we'd become couples too. - There were many games like that.
- My gosh, those days. - They'd come every week...
to sing for me.
- They'd dance for me too. - Right.
My heart would flutter.
(Her heart would flutter, and they'd break up right away.)
Seul Ki, you put yourself on the map...
with your retro-style dance on variety shows.
Actually, you said that the dance emerged...
as a last-ditch effort.
When I first started, I didn't prepare to do...
the retro-style dance.
At first,
I was going to dance hip hop.
- Right. - But there were many good dancers.
The closer I got to the filming, the lower my confidence would go.
And then, I was organizing my files on my computer.
Zolaman.
- Zolaman. - The stick figure showed up.
I saw the stick figure dance like this.
- You thought about what to dance. - Yes.
I prepared a similar dance to that and went on the day of the shoot.
- Zolaman. - Yes.
But I got to the set and was preparing my dance.
Ho Dong asked me...
what I had prepared.
I told him that I prepared a random dance.
He said, "Cut".
"You can't do that."
"You're a newbie." He said that because...
he was making an effort too.
He wanted me to go viral.
He told me to think about it.
- Right. - He wanted a different name for it.
I was thinking for a name like crazy.
It looked retro for some reason,
so I just said that I prepared a retro-style dance.
- That's how it happened. - It came out of nowhere.
- I see. - You came up with that name.
"You can't name it like that."
- Was that your impression of him? - As soon as I finished the dance,
he told me to prepare a series of the same style dance.
Right. Ho Dong asks things like that.
(Under a lot of pressure)
He'd come to you, mention a few things, and leave.
"You're good. You're good."
"You're good. Well done."
So I ended up coming up with 11 different variations.
(Her retro-style dance swept the variety shows for a while.)
Sang Hyuk,
you saw someone crying because of Ho Dong?
It was the first variety show my group ever did.
We filmed outdoors and filmed indoors next.
Ho Dong asked Jong Hyuk...
how he thought about the outdoor filming was.
Jong Hyuk...
couldn't say anything. He just stood there, blinking.
- He was nervous. - I can understand.
- He got scared. - He's like that.
- Even now... - He was quieter back then.
He gets butterflies even now.
- He's like that. - He excels in jungles.
- He's good at using his body. - Right.
- He's good at that. - Now that he served in the Marines,
he looks like a manly guy.
Back then,
he was brimming with tears.
- Ho Dong... - Right.
stopped the filming and told him that he had to do better.
And we resumed again.
When he tried to speak next,
he went all mute again.
When Ho Dong sighed,
Jong Hyuk started to cry.
(Crying)
I'm not sure if I should share this on TV.
You already shared it.
Well, anyway,
I took care of Jong Hyuk.
- Back then, - He was utterly nervous.
- I took care of him. - Right.
- He sighed. - By the way,
he's not that old, but he has a long line of career.
- Yes, it's very long. - Did you debut in 1999?
- Yes, my debut was in 1999. - Yes, it was in 1999.
- Really? - I debuted with Soo Young.
I bet you still think about this.
If you hadn't had the distasteful incident back then,
you could have been as popular as Jae Seok. Don't you think that?
No way. I might not have been as popular as Jae Seok,
but I do believe I could have done better than this.
It doesn't hurt to imagine.
Right. Exactly.
- I can still imagine. - You're very circumspect.
- Imagining isn't a crime. - Right.
Of course, not. No, it's not.
That's not a crime at all.
I just had a fantasy.
- Right. He used to be a big shot. - Yes, exactly.
I bet you think that you could've done better than Jong Min.
Probably. Back then,
he would ask me for advice on how to excel on variety shows.
- He'd ask me a lot of questions. - I knew it.
You're like the godfather.
Right.
- He was very popular back then. - Exactly.
He asked me what the process was like...
for getting paid when he was on a private TV show.
(He was indeed the man about town back then.)
- Seul Ki. - Yes.
You once cried profusely because of ssireum?
I was usually on "Love Letter".
I was a regular member on it.
They always had sports games.
- They do it in the middle. - They always had the physical test.
- Back then... - We always played ssireum.
- It was a team match too. - Right. But the thing about me...
is that I'm not athletic at all.
Whenever we had matches, I was always placed last.
I wanted to do well,
but my body couldn't pull it off.
From Ho Dong's point of view,
it looked like I wasn't doing my best.
- He jumped to conclusions. - Yes.
But he still tried to take care of me.
He told me ssireum techniques...
- Okay. - before we started filming.
- He wanted to foster you. - He wanted me to observe him.
"Seul Ki, look. Look at this."
He'd throw the guys over his shoulder.
"This is how you do it."
He taught me these techniques,
but I couldn't pull them off even when I wanted to.
I couldn't even put up a good fight.
I ended up just falling down right away.
During our break,
Ho Dong approached me from the behind.
"Seul Ki."
"Because your dance is well-received by people, you can't..."
- "do a half-hearted job on TV." - That's scarier.
"You can't do that."
- Right. - "You'll always be popular?"
- This was... - "You think it'll last forever?"
- Right. - He said something like that.
He tried to sound very gentle,
but I wanted to do well.
- It's just my body wasn't capable. - You weren't capable.
That made me cry back then.
That's why I cried.
Ho Dong made a lot of people cry.
(He sure loves his juniors very much.)
Sang Hyuk. Back in the days, a lot of people were...
scared of Ho Dong.
But you weren't scared of him at all.
I met Ho Dong...
right before when he had gotten very famous.
He was at a point when he could have crumbled...
with one wrong move.
You saw him to be in your category.
No, he was above me though.
- I get it. - He's older and has seniority.
- It was before he had his own... - It was before his shows, right?
- It was before his shows. - I get it then.
He was trying to make it in the industry too.
- He wasn't a top MC then. - He was lost back then.
- You built your careers together. - Yes.
We built our careers together.
He debuted at such an early age.
This is what Sang Hyuk said himself.
"I was trendy, had the popularity of an idol group,"
"and had the public's approval as an entertainer."
"I used to have all of those."
- I used to have them. - It's in past tense.
Actually, back in the days, I know that...
- he used to be fashionable. - He was well-dressed.
- And he was handsome. - Right. He was.
Right? Didn't you wear...
the checkered pattern clothing from the UK a lot?
It was B brand's clothing.
People said I am the son of the family...
that owns the brand.
Son of the family that owns Burberry?
- The branch manager's son. - The branch manager's son.
That's only a rumor.
I wore the brand often because I like it.
I was sponsored by that brand for the first time.
- That brand sponsored you. - Yes.
Not anymore, right?
It has been long since the sponsorship stopped.
You made some items trendy back in the days.
Back then, I made jeans trendy.
The L brand that made the first jeans.
I spread that brand in Korea.
There is the B brand, which is its auxiliary brand in Japan.
I also spread that brand in Korea.
He was a trendsetter.
There was also a track jacket from the A brand.
- I was the father of track jackets. - The father of track jackets.
The father of track jackets?
I star in Kian84's webtoon.
(The father of track jackets, Sang Hyuk)
I also made shaggy cut...
and wolf cut trendy.
- You were a trendsetter. - Yes.
The production crew will add pictures of the past.
We are talking about the past, after all.
- That's right. - People still wear those items.
I am reminded of the time Lee Sang Byeok and Heo Cham...
visited the show.
We aren't from that long ago.
On that episode...
You should have joined us on that episode.
I know.
You know,
listening to him made me realize...
he was more impressive than I had thought.
(They would have looked natural together).
Chaeyeon, when you had to do dance welcoming ceremonies,
you cared the most about Yu Jae Seok's eyes.
That's right.
There is a new expression,
J.L.R.T.
It means, "Join or leave at the right time".
There was a similar game of wits.
- That's right. - If I was ready to dance,
I looked Jae Seok in the eye. "Ask me to dance."
"Hurry up." I looked at him like this.
- If I didn't prepare thoroughly... - Then you avoided his eyes.
while the fellow guests prepared...
something amazing,
- I looked elsewhere. - That's right.
- I did this. - You avoided Jae Seok's eyes.
Yes. That's why I cared the most about his eyes.
That's right.
Let's see you spin.
(Let's see you spin.)
Let's see you spin.
- Let's see Chaeyeon's dance. - My dance?
- All right. - The title is...
"Dangerous 12 O'clock".
- Okay. - "Dangerous 12 O'clock".
I am not even surprised.
- "Dangerous 12 O'clock". - "Dangerous 12 O'clock".
Let me tell you how to compare the two eras.
You even came up with the title.
Back in the days, you focused on the camera.
You kept your eyes on the camera and did this.
You danced like this.
Now, you have to dance until your body breaks down.
- Please focus on this difference. - Okay.
- Okay.
She will spin.
She does that a lot.
This is the past.
(Spinning)
(Back in the days)
- That's right. - Everyone spun back then.
There you go.
Twister Dance.
(She refuses to keep her charms hidden.)
She is good.
This is her song.
(Sexy and provocative)
(20 years ago, she was the queen of variety shows and sexiness.)
(In 2019, she makes a comeback with "Gotta Go".)
(I can take over 2019 as well.)
(Her dance transcends the gap of 20 years.)
- She is good. - Seriously.
(Flipping)
(She isn't stretching.)
(Jin Sook still has it.)
(She dances until her body breaks down.)
(Her passion burns.)
(Her dance brings back memories.)
(She gave her all to the performance...)
(of "Gotta Go".)
Chaeyeon is good.
- Chaeyeon. - Chaeyeon.
You know... I am exhausted.
She closed the gap of 20 years.
She belongs in the first generation...
- of K-Pop singers. - She is incredible.
I wish I did a good job.
You are the best.
Chaeyeon is still hale and hearty.
(Fond)
- Hale and hearty! - She is in her prime.
- That's right. - Really?
- Let's see Seul Ki's dance. - Seul Ki.
- Retro-style dance. - Let me prepare myself.
- She is taking out her earrings. - These guests came ready.
Will the dance be that intense?
- These earrings are a sample. - They are a sample.
(She takes off her sample earrings to get ready.)
I shouldn't laugh.
- I need to keep a straight face. - Her dance is fun.
It's okay to laugh.
Music, please.
She is getting ready.
(She will dance with a straight face like back in the days.)
She is getting ready.
(Retro-style dance)
That's good.
(Her facial expression is chic.)
(The queen of retro-style dance, Bae Seul Ki)
That's right.
I remember this.
(She rolls her hips.)
I remember this.
(Retro-style dance powers up.)
(Her original dance is as flashy as it can be.)
I remember this. I haven't seen it in a long time.
(She stretches out her long arms.)
That's great.
(She is immersed.)
(She is still good.)
She specializes in the arm moves.
Seriously.
You have long arms.
- I have incredibly long arms. - That's right.
I don't know what to do with them.
That was impressive.
I feel like we are in the "X-Man" era.
- It's not half bad. - It's nice.
- It's nice.
- It's Soo Young's turn. - Soo Young.
- My turn? - We have prepared dancers...
- and unprepared dancers. - Come on!
(It's time to see the dance Soo Young didn't prepared.)
- Two unprepared dancers. - This happens sometimes.
When people like Soo Young and Sang Hyuk...
dance funnily and make everyone laugh,
- I feel like my effort was futile. - That's right.
Here comes Soo Young.
(The balladeer, Soo Young's dance)
Good luck.
My goodness. Everyone did a good job.
Will we see your sentimentality?
- I can't predict her dance. - Show us what you can do.
After the guests have shown incredible dances...
Well...
- My goodness. - It has been a while.
This is a song by 2 Unlimited.
"Twilight Zone".
(She moves shyly.)
(No one has expected her moves.)
(What is that?)
(She shows her swag in a stream of consciousness.)
She is really good at this.
(She couldn't hide talent back in the days.)
(The queen of variety shows dances to make up for the long hiatus.)
She is good.
(Her facial expressions and movements show good cheer.)
(Her potentials in variety shows explode.)
This is exactly what Chaeyeon was worried about.
- That's right. - That was hilarious.
- Your effort was futile. - That was hilarious.
Rolling my hips didn't help at all.
I have never seen a dance like that.
It's Soo Young's unexpected charm.
She turned the tables.
Where did that dance come from?
- I was so surprised. - You know,
a lot of people don't know this about me.
I originally prepared to become a dance singer.
- A dance singer. - You can dance.
That's right. I learned how to keep my arms straight.
You learned how to dance.
This brings back memories.
It's good to reminisce about the past.
Chaeyeon, you were incredibly popular back then.
In 3 months, you went to 100 universities...
to perform at events. You went to every university.
When I began to work after graduating from a university,
I met a lot of people.
Everyone said to me,
"You were at my university."
Everyone said that to me.
- You met them as adults. - Yes.
I went to so many universities.
Did you do this?
I sang "Dangerous Directing" and "Two of Us".
- This dance was a hit. - Yes.
Yes. University students wanted to see that dance.
That's right.
Soo Young, your skills in eating in the car...
got upgraded day by day.
- I was very busy... - That's right.
- back in the days. - We know that.
I got tired of eating...
- burger and gimbap. - Of course.
- Of course you got tired of it. - So...
I love dishes with soup.
In a speeding car, I ate jjamppong.
(She ate jjamppong.)
That's impressive.
That's quite a talent.
The soup would splatter.
- It was really... - Did you move with the car?
- Yes. I moved with the rhythm. - Really?
You need a strong core.
You moved with the rhythm.
I went up with the splattering soup...
- and put down the bowl. - That's right.
It won't do to take off the plastic wrap all the way.
- Of course not. - You made a small opening.
- I made a small opening. - That's right.
She ate through there.
I kept the soup inside the bowl.
That's a talent.
You have a lot of events.
Money you earned that way got robbed.
(My goodness.)
How sad!
All of us know what it was like back then.
Soo Young spent hours on the road to earn money.
- That's right. - I only got skills in eating.
I know. For goodness' sake.
Soo Young, you won the Grand Award on "MBC Song Festival"...
in 2003 and 2004.
Yes.
You played down your popularity during the preliminary interview.
You were incredibly popular.
- Every album she released... - That's right.
- sold 1,000,000 copies. - The queen of ballad.
These days,
there are junior singers who are globally renowned.
So,
winning the Grand Award twice on MBC...
is nothing to brag about.
(Joking)
You play down your popularity now,
but you felt very entitled as a celebrity back then.
The thing is,
I become incredibly sensitive when I work.
I can barely eat or sleep.
Everything has to be perfect.
- You were on edge. - Back then,
there were a lot of rumors about me.
You talked about it on Radio Star.
That's right.
They said I threw the strawberries my manager brought...
because the stems were intact.
They also said I pooped in the waiting room.
(There was a rumor about poop.)
They said you pooped in the waiting room...
- because you didn't want to go out. - I didn't know about that.
That kind of rumor...
Kyeong Rim got a call from a reporter...
and relayed the rumor.
"Did you poop in the waiting room?"
Really?
- The rumors were bad. - Yes.
I think it was worse since I was an introvert...
- with very little friends. - I see.
People came up with stories.
- Did you throw strawberries? - There is a rumor I heard.
- What is it? - I heard that Soo Young...
only drinks a specific brand of water.
- Evian. - One time, her manager got angry...
and filled the bottle with tap water.
She drank it and said, "This is the taste I wanted."
- The thing is, - There was that rumor.
I heard that rumor about another female singer.
Really?
I guess people with a similar image...
share rumors.
I think I have seen...
someone come out of the waiting room with a strawberry in his eye socket.
- In any case... - They are only rumors.
- Are these stories... - Right.
completely groundless?
The manager did bring rinsed strawberries.
I was the DJ of a late-night radio program.
He did bring rinsed strawberries.
- That's right. We had snacks. - They need to be rinsed.
It must have been hard to do that so late at night.
The manager wrote...
an embellished story on the managers' website.
I guess he had grudges.
(He spread rumors about Soo Young.)
Did you get healed from those rumors...
after you got married?
I think about it every time I rinse strawberries.
Now, you have to bring rinsed strawberries...
- to your son. - I rinse them and remove the stems.
My son...
leaves behind the bottom part...
because it isn't sweet.
Then I think, "This is my punishment" and eat it.
(She eats the bottom part.)
Dear managers who have a misunderstanding about me,
I am being punished right now,
so please forgive me.
Chaeyeon, you said...
celebrities made a move on you via mini website messages.
Back then,
it was hard to exchange phone numbers.
Mini website messages...
were like Instagram DMs.
There must have been celebrities you were interested in.
Of course.
- I did date a few of them. - It happened through that.
Yes.
- I worked with a few of them. - Cyworld's heyday is their heyday.
- That's right. - The tearful selfie.
That's right. The tearful selfie.
- We did a parody once. - That's right.
"I shed tears sometimes."
That's right.
I think about it sometimes.
When I watch TV,
I often see shows...
- use the line I have written. - That's right.
Shouldn't I get a royalty?
(Chaeyeon font)
Do you have an Instagram account?
- Yes. - You should recreate it...
right now.
People will go wild.
- My goodness. - It will be a hit.
Did you take a selfie while you were crying?
Yes, I did.
Were you actually crying?
The resolution wasn't that great back in the days.
How did it happen? Did you think, "I need a selfie"?
I had a flip phone.
I was crying. I cried every day...
- back then. - Really?
- Did you cry every day? - Yes, I did.
You were struggling internally.
Yes, I was too busy.
I received a lot of attention as a celebrity,
so I didn't know what to do.
"Will I be able to lead a normal life?"
"Until when will I be able to live like this?"
It was that period in my life,
so crying wasn't anything noteworthy.
One day, I looked into the mirror while I was crying...
and realized that I look fine.
With tears rolling down my face,
I looked for my phone.
I flipped it open and took selfies.
I didn't take one selfie.
I took multiple selfies until I got the right one.
- You took multiple selfies. - Back then,
"Attention seeker" wasn't widely used.
You are right.
Sang Hyuk, whenever you drank...
Whenever you drank, you wrote sentimental words on Cyworld.
I was the same as Chaeyeon.
Even when I didn't do much, people liked me...
and cheered me on.
I was sentimental.
I think I wanted to express...
how the attention I am getting is a heavy burden.
On Cyworld, you could write a diary.
- A diary. - I would write a diary...
- for everyone to see. - I need to check this out.
"When you part with friends,"
"have you seen their backs until they disappeared from sight?"
"I have never turned away first."
"Until when do you think..."
"you will be able to see your friends?"
You cried as you wrote that, right?
I cried.
You should have taken a selfie!
- You should have taken a selfie! - I took selfies a few times.
But I woke up and logged into Cyworld...
first thing in the morning to check what I did.
On Cyworld, you could decorate your room.
You could express...
- your feelings in that room. - That's right.
My avatar would wear something like a clown mask.
- That's right. - The caption would read,
"Hello, I am a clown."
"I am a lonely clown."
- You know a lot. - The background music...
would be something without lyrics.
You are an expert of the 2000s.
(He took everyone on a trip down memory lane.)
Chaeyeon, every time you visit a music program,
you see a miracle before your eyes.
After a music program,
everyone gather at the hallway...
and thank the scriptwriters and producers...
for their hard work.
After working actively as a singer,
I took a four-year hiatus before I released another album.
I had become...
- an old singer. - That's right.
- It's like that. - There was no one my age.
My manager asked me...
if I will go and greet the staff.
"Of course. I am back after a long hiatus."
When I went,
so many idol singers there.
The lobby was packed full.
You usually follow the order of the line.
I got there late,
but the idol singers made way for me...
like the miracle of the parting sea.
On one hand, it made me feel good.
On the other hand,
I thought, "I am at that age now."
When I walked down,
the producer was...
younger than me.
He said,
"You didn't have to come and say hello."
I was, "I had to come."
- "I am back after a long hiatus." - The ones you knew have retired.
They left the company.
Chaeyeon, does the web portal make you sad these days?
- Well... - Hold on. Now you sound spiteful.
"I hate that the good days have passed."
Is that what you are doing?
- Listen. - Is that what you are doing?
They say it's the old people...
- who talk about the past. - That's right.
- That's why I don't want to do it. - I wasn't going to do it.
We were invited to talk about the past.
- We have to do it. - That's right.
You were invited to talk about the past.
There is nothing else to talk about since we haven't done anything.
Gook Jin and I debuted when Roh Tae Woo was the president.
You will be fine...
as long as you don't imitate him.
Things have changed.
When I watch TV,
I see people with my stage name.
- There are many of them. Back then, - That's right.
I was the only one with that stage name.
When you type your name on a web portal,
the most active celebrity...
show up on the top.
The fact that my stage name comes up first...
tells me I rank higher.
That's right.
Maybe it's like that...
because you omitted the last name.
I am sorry.
Why did you apologize?
- I feel timid. - Why did you apologize?
It wasn't even a bad comment.
Sang Hyuk, stop looking around after you say something.
Why did you apologize?
- Say what's on your mind. - It was only a comment.
Stop looking around.
It's not like you threw a rock at her.
Seul Ki, you found out about in-time comments only recently.
Yes. People post comments...
as the show airs.
I only found out about it through "Risky Romance".
- Really? - Yes.
- They are more interesting... - That's right.
- than the drama. - They are fun.
- You became obsessed. - Yes.
They are amazing.
After I watch a drama with Jung Hae In,
I am filled with uncontrollable feelings.
You like him that much.
Yes. However,
I can't share them with my husband.
I don't know why,
but my husband is always angry when I watch that drama.
That's how I found out about in-time comments.
People my age...
write funny comments.
"I see Jung Hae In on TV,"
"but there is only a squid by my side."
"A squid is lying by my side."
Soo Young, you recently ran out...
- of a yoga class. - You did that during class.
- Why? - In yoga,
every pose is important.
But the most important pose is the one at the end,
shavasana.
You lie down...
and rest.
It makes every previous pose effective.
However, I am always busy because of my son.
- Even 5 or 10 minutes... - You can't wrap up the exercise.
are a luxury. Even after a hard workout,
I can't do the last pose.
I have to run home...
and work until I drop dead.
I can't do yoga at home.
When I imitate a mountain...
for the downward-facing dog pose,
my son lies down underneath.
He is lovely! Is he not?
Is he not?
That is somewhat lovely.
I can feel her cold stare now.
Who takes care of your child...
when you are not there?
He either goes to school...
or a lot of prep schools.
Prep schools.
He needs to follow my schedule.
Otherwise, I can't do anything else.
Sang Hyuk, you've done a lot...
including online malls, traveling agency,
- restaurants, and bars? - Raw beef?
I even handed out flyers.
I worked hard to promote too.
For a short while, it did well.
But the rent and labor cost...
- were too high. - Absolutely.
Nothing lasts forever.
Now I've moved on.
I am into steamed buns.
Are steamed buns forever?
You moved on from raw beef to steamed buns?
Now I have experts, too.
- Experts? - What about bars?
It was a franchise.
I worked hard from cleaning tables...
to washing dishes.
My bar was at Yeouido,
but the companies at Yeouido...
kept coming and going.
The business was too unstable.
So, were any of them...
ever profitable?
- Any of them... - Did you always breakeven?
Broke even? Or what?
I don't think so.
How did you get by?
All business failed.
Breakeven means you lost money.
You were in the traveling business?
Traveling business?
Someone stole money from the company.
- Really? - The traveling agency?
Apart from your brief breaks,
you've went through a rough patch.
Are steamed buns your only hope?
Right. It's going okay, too.
- Steamed buns? - It's running.
Maybe you'll look better with chubbier cheeks.
I think he looks fine now.
- I lost some for the wedding. - So he looks more like a bun.
(To look more like a steamed bun)
That makes sense.
Don't I remind you of a steamed bun?
Don't you think?
Just a little, you know?
You have a very trendy face for steamed buns.
Maybe later...
- after my business grows. - He doesn't fit the bun look.
But his buns are French buns.
- Right, it's French style. - The French style.
- He looks a bit French. - He does look a little French, too!
Does your expert have a steamed bun-looking face?
- Maybe? - Is it possible?
He is skinny like me.
- Is that right? - That's unfortunate.
Your most successful business was during elementary school?
Yes.
I went to school in Jamsil.
My friend moved to Suseo.
When I visited him to go to church,
I saw some lizards.
So I bought a few of them, for 1 dollar each.
I brought it to school to show off,
and my friends were curious to know where I got it.
So I told them I bought from Suseo.
When they asked me how much it was,
I accidently told them it was 2 dollars,
even though I bought at 1 dollar.
- So... - Wow.
- So you were the middle-man. - That's right.
If I can sell just 10 lizards, I can make twice the money.
So I went to Suseo every week.
- To buy lizards? - For lizards?
To buy lizards.
In the end, the guy asked me,
how many I am going to buy.
He offered to deliver, too.
- To be his distributor. - That's right.
- I'll give you a discount. - That's why...
I think I was best at my business...
was when I was little.
After I told my friends the truth,
I checked my Cyworld.
The nickname they gave me was...
Lizard Conman Friend.
- If you were to run a business, - For that incident.
you should have bought a female.
Bring a female lizard,
and make sure it procreates.
I didn't have the technology.
- How is that technology? - You can do that at home.
They would be everywhere...
around your house.
In fact, it was quite difficult.
But honestly,
I did all the hard work.
Transportation, labor, and so on.
On top of that,
it was really easy to run into a gangster.
If you run into one,
that's the end for the day.
(Business is forced to close)
Back in the days...
- Are you from the Wild West? - I'm serious!
It's very easy to run into them.
(Tough memories of a Lizard Conman)
Sang Hyuk, this year marks the 20th year of Click-B's debut.
Yes, it is.
- Is it already? - We debuted on August 7.
How many were there? Eight?
- No, we have 7. - 7 members.
Is there a heated debate on the third most successful member?
Yes. Jong Hyuk does well...
- in musicals. - He's doing well.
Jong Hyuk is the first place. Who's next?
Next is me.
(It's me!)
Then the competition becomes really intense.
- Who plays the guitar? - Third place is...
It's Min Hyuk.
He's a musical prodigy.
He's an excellent guitarist.
But now,
he's into dog food business.
- Dog food business. - What about Tae Hyung?
For Tae Hyung,
he was into both play and musicals.
Now he's in neither.
So he is at home watching American TV shows.
He watches a lot of them.
- His sister was a scriptwriter... - I thought you meant...
- for radio programs. - he works in that field.
That's right.
- Who else? - We have Evan.
- He was quite handsome! - He's handsome.
He goes to Japan frequently.
He performs jazz.
Honestly,
he says he did,
but I can't be too sure.
The rumor was...
that he's from a wealthy family.
It was a famous rumor among singers.
We were friends since middle school,
so I would sleepover at his house.
But my house was better.
(My house was better.)
- Who else? - Look at him.
This is a very serious competition.
We also have Hyun Gon, the drummer.
What about him?
He released few albums,
moved to Jeju Island,
and now lives in Ansan.
Everyone is trying their best.
(Everyone is trying their best.)
Is it true that...
you want to be in-laws with Yoo Ho Suk?
First of all,
Ho Suk was always suspected of being wealthy.
I suspect it too...
since he often wears...
expensive things that not everyone can afford,
like expensive watches.
Not just any high-quality watches,
- but extremely expensive ones. - Really expensive pieces.
So I am curious, too.
And his father had a business in the US for a long time.
And I heard him talking about Wall Street, too.
Nothing is proved, right?
When I asked him about it,
he mentioned something in New York.
And he visits New York often, too.
I am sure he does.
And sometimes, he talks about things...
that I can't simply ignore.
(Curious)
He talks about his friends...
and the stock market.
He talks as if they are some big players.
That's mysterious.
He said to me,
"If you need anything in the future,"
"I will use my network to help you."
You should do steamed buns together!
Not small things, but something bigger.
So what does he do now?
I am not sure, too.
You don't know?
He claims...
he is in Japan for jazz performance.
Evan, right?
(Evan is Ho Suk.)
I thought two were different.
Me too.
It's the same person.
You want to be in-laws...
with someone with such a vague background?
This guy, sorry, I was about to swear.
My friend,
sometimes,
seems to go through some tough times.
I mean, for a while I did, too.
So he should probably be the same.
But he's doing so much better than I do.
So you are suspicious?
Something mysterious?
He must have strong ties.
(Strong ties?)
Chaeyeon, you agreed to go out with...
from Soo Hong Park, Cho Sae Ho, and Kim Seung Soo?
That's very specific.
You will accept these three?
It's different for everyone.
Let's see.
For Seung Soo,
I had a chance to meet him from a program.
He was really nice.
(Found him to be nice)
He's a great guy.
It was a program with my parents,
and he came as a guest.
As a guest,
he could do interview first and go.
But he let my parents to do the interview first.
And he came back later to finish the interview.
When he said that,
I found him to be very considerate.
He respects your parents.
That's why...
I said I will say yes to go out on a date with him.
He's a great guy.
So when I said, "I don't think he's that bad,"
they changed my answer a little bit.
What about Soo Hong?
My mom likes to watch the show "My Little Old Boy".
She thinks he and I are a good match,
considering the age and all.
- It's my mom's choice. - Compared to the others?
- What about Sae Ho? - Sae Ho?
For Sae Ho,
I liked him even before he was famous.
When his name was "Cabbage."
Right, I liked him since then.
Not as a person,
I mean, as a man.
(Not good enough as a person?)
Not as a person?
Did you like him just for being funny?
- As a person... - That was my mistake.
You mean as a man.
Yes, I am not attracted to him,
but I respect him as a person.
He's really nice, too.
He's always full of energy.
So I've always liked him.
During a program, he jokingly asked me out,
and I just said, sure!
You are not lonely at all.
- But at the end, - She's popular.
none of them are mine.
They are all just stories.
If you are really up for it, you should try!
They should be really up for it.
- That's right. - I think you should change.
What if you ask them out first?
You can totally do that.
Us old schools can't do that.
We want men to approach us.
- Old schools. - They need to approach first.
Do you now call yourself an old school?
(The good old days)
Soo Young, you've been married for 10 years.
Your fighting skills have developed?
At first,
we fought a lot over petty things.
Since my son was really young,
we couldn't raise our voices.
So we fought in silence.
I'm serious.
We yell however we want,
and say whatever we want,
but all in silence.
Then,
as the child grew,
I realized that it's also important to show...
that parents fight, too.
Show him that you fight, too?
Yes, how to fight and make up well.
These days,
we fight quite skillfully.
It makes it more interesting, right?
- Of course. - You couldn't yell before.
So you do this for your child's education.
Of course.
Nowadays, when we fight, my son would say,
"There you go again!"
- Then it stops us right away. - Your son does.
So your son is like the referee.
Have you ever...
intentionally picked a fight because you were bored?
"I'm a bit bored."
"Shall I pick a fight?"
He throws a banana peel while you're passing by.
People do that from time to time.
Upon seeing Gu Ra, I realized...
that he has a similar personality to my husband's.
- Is your husband realistic too? - I see why you two fight.
Yes. He's a very realistic person.
- He's not sentimental... - At all, right?
But he thinks he's sentimental.
Just like Gu Ra does.
- When he listens to music... - Gu Ra...
started to become sentimental...
as menopause started.
I believe sensitivity is very important.
My dream is to cry more easily...
- I can see that. - and cry while watching a movie.
It's in my bucket list.
(Dizzy)
You get angry when your husband goes on a business trip.
I wish it was because I miss him,
but since I have a child now,
especially on a weekend, I have to take care of...
- my child all by myself. - Right.
Even if my husband doesn't do anything at home, it's different...
when he's at home.
At some point, I even wondered if he planned a business trip...
during school breaks.
You came up with a conspiracy theory.
Weirdly, he went on a business trip during every school break.
He never missed it.
- I got so frustrated. - Of course.
It felt like he went on a trip to have fun without us.
It felt like you were raising your child alone, right?
- Yes. - Have you ever doubted him?
That's why I always...
It's not that I keep him in check,
but I make a video call to him at an unexpected moment.
- A video call? - Yes.
What happens if he doesn't answer your call?
He gets in big trouble.
- It's like a random search. - For example,
he has only 15 percent of battery left.
Making excuses won't work on me.
Why is it an excuse?
Video calling doesn't work when you have 15 percent left.
I need a more reasonable explanation.
There's a photography backdrop with a funeral photo on it.
That's right.
- There's also a phone application. - A portable backdrop board...
- with a photo... - There's a phone application.
- There's also a phone application. - As we went through those times,
I don't think that way anymore.
- Trusting him makes you carefree. - Right.
These days, I wait for him to go on a business trip.
That's normal for a married couple.
- You can have a drink too. - That's right.
- I invite my friends over. - It's normal.
Seul Ki, you eat all sorts of things.
- Pardon me? - Do you eat deep fried centipede?
- Yes. I tried it... - In the countryside.
in China.
- Duck's eyeballs too? - I tried it when I...
- went on a trip with Chaeyeon. - She can eat unusual foods.
Is it true that you grilled a frog by yourself?
- Yes, when I was a little child. - I see.
- Back then, - It's delicious.
- I lived in the mountains. - I enjoyed it too.
So I thought it was okay to eat everything in the mountains.
You must like "I'm Living with Nature".
("Seul Ki Is Living with Nature")
Is your favorite food kudzu root?
- Yes. I love kudzu root. - It's delicious.
It's sad that I can't...
- eat it often. - How do you eat it?
As soon as you dig up kudzu root,
- peel it and... - You eat it raw.
Cut it into finger sized pieces and chew it.
At first, it tastes so bitter.
But it gets really sweet if you keep chewing it.
It's so good that it can't be compared...
- to gums or caramels. - I see.
We used to eat it a lot when we were little.
That's right. In the past, gums and candies were hard to get,
so we ate kudzu root instead.
- Are you reminiscing old times? - We dug it up in the mountains.
- Why do I know things like this? - You're not that old.
- I really did that. - Me too.
- I was born in 1970 too. - It's true.
There aren't many mountains in Incheon.
You hit it with a sickle like this.
That's right. With a sickle.
You can just hit it with a sickle like this...
to peel it.
- And you chew it. - That's right.
The color changes after some time.
Didn't we also eat petals of azalea?
- And scarlet sage. - I used to eat acacia.
- Acacia. - Oh, right. Acacia.
- I meant acacia. - And scarlet sage.
- But you didn't eat kudzu root? - We can't do it now.
(I see. It must've been delicious.)
- Oh, Chaeyeon did it too. - Yes.
- Sucking honey from flowers. - That's right.
- I see. - That's when I ate kudzu root.
I don't remember anything like that.
I didn't eat kudzu root.
Don't candies taste better?
(He stands firm in his views.)
Seul Ki, have you always been a gourmand?
How much food do you eat?
I used to eat a lot when I was younger.
When I was really fat,
I ate family-size pizza and two portions of pasta.
You ate the whole pizza by yourself?
Yes, I ate it all by myself.
- Before you made your debut? - Yes.
Back then, I ate a lot because I was stressed out.
Now I try to keep thin, so I refrain myself...
from eating too much ramyeon.
How many portions of ramyeon do you eat?
I eat three portions when I'm not on a diet.
- At once? - At once.
- At once? - Yes. I eat three portions at once.
- You do? - Yes.
- Yoo Min Sang eats that much. - I like ramyeon so much.
You eat three portions?
I eat only one portion in a week now.
- I see. - My goodness. Is that right?
- That's unbelievable. - She eats a lot.
Speaking of diet,
Soo Young succeeded in losing weight...
thanks to the ladies she met at a sauna.
About six months ago,
whatever I ate tasted so good.
- So I gained... - You gained a lot of weight.
- There are times like that. - I've never...
I've never gained or lost that much weight.
However, I got fatter and fatter so fast,
but I couldn't stop eating.
I like yoga and sauna the most.
At any sauna,
there are some ladies who get a long-term membership...
for the sauna.
- There are some people... - Long-term members.
who keep their toothbrushes there.
- They keep everything there. - They have their own lockers.
Their own lockers.
Since I go to the same sauna in my neighborhood,
- they all know me. - That's right.
And we have become friends.
Whenever they see me, they cheer me up.
One day, I was washing my hair, and she was 100m away from me.
She walked up to me suddenly.
I asked what it was about, and she said,
"You gained weight, didn't you?"
(The lady scanned her body accurately.)
- She kept monitoring your body. - Yes.
- She let you know. - She knows...
- my body so well. - He got surprised.
- It's hard... - He got surprised.
- to check my own body. - That's right.
She sees me so often.
That's what Gook Jin would never hear.
- "You gained weight, didn't you?" - He got so surprised.
- I felt so good for a moment. - I know.
However, she wasn't the only one.
Whenever I went to the sauna,
- ladies told me the same thing. - It must've been stressful.
And they said it repeatedly. They even said,
"You are our hope."
(Giggling)
- "If you also give up..." - "You're the hope of this sauna."
"If you also give up..."
- "If you also..." - They wanted you to keep thin.
"I used to be thin too."
"We can eat as much as we want, but you can't."
- This is what they meant. - "Try to lose..."
- "just 5kg." - They wanted you to lose weight.
They also gave me balloon flower root tea...
- to help me. - To reduce the swelling.
They said I should lose weight.
- So... - That's nice.
- I lost weight. - You must be grateful towards them.
That's why many celebrities never go to a sauna.
- They don't like being watched. - You must overcome it.
I overcame it and lost weight.
I went back to the sauna after getting my body back.
- They praised me. - Right.
They know when to praise and criticize.
Sang Hyuk, do you not wear underwear?
- Many men do that. - It's too hot in summer.
So I'm more comfortable without underwear.
On a freezing cold day in winter,
it can shrink a little bit. Except for that case,
I don't wear underwear.
- Many people don't wear underwear. - Right.
- I didn't know that. - As I got used to it,
- I felt more comfortable. - Does it feel comfortable?
Women don't understand it.
But men and women have different body structures.
In the past, Mr. T, who is a celebrity,
never wore underwear.
- Tak Jae Hoon? - Yes, Tak Jae Hoon.
Since then...
Oh, many men...
Why did you call him Mr. T if you were going to say his name?
Mr. T used to do it.
Then...
doesn't your fiancee hate it?
You don't need to receive underwear as a gift.
It's good that we can save money on it.
(What a way to save money.)
- That's unexpected. - Less laundry to do.
Less laundry to do.
But it's not that you have no underwear.
- Yes. I have underwear at home. - Of course.
When I wear trousers that are revealing,
I wear underwear to prevent...
any possible accident.
Just like women wear shorts under skirts.
Underwear is like shorts for me.
I get it now.
He's telling us all sorts of things.
(He shares too much information.)
You are watching a high-end music program, Radio Star.
This week's theme is for those who were very active...
on variety shows early in the 2000s.
"The Song to Remind Me of..."
- "the 2000s". - "The 2000s".
Shall we hear the song that Soo Young chose?
("La La La" by Lee Soo Young, Soo Young's 1st chart-topping song)
"La La La". We haven't heard this song for a while.
I love this song.
Why did you pick this song?
I had never been ranked top before this song.
- It's my first chart-topping song. - That's right.
Since then, every song I released...
- Your songs were ranked top. - Yes. "La La La"...
was the first song that gave me the chance to be on top of charts.
- Soo Young will sing "La La La". - All right.
(Soo Young will sing "La La La".)
("La La La" by Lee Soo Young)
(This song made me a chart-topping singer.)
(I'm going to sing it once again with all my heart.)
(The Eastern melody)
(And her heart-wrenching voice)
(Her performance reminds us of an oriental painting.)
(When a good movie is released)
(I will watch it with him)
(Reminiscing the good old days)
(Has it ever happened to you?)
(At least once)
(Just like I suffered from a lot of rumors)
(I'll try to forget)
(I won't give up even if it's hard)
(Rumor, rumor)
(The strawberry rumor)
(The poop rumor)
(As if it never happened)
(La la la)
(The ballad queen's heart-wrenching voice...)
(hasn't changed at all.)
(She's still got it.)
Whose voice was it? "I don't know anything."
It's my voice. I did it like narration.
- I see. - Yes.
I like the idea. "I don't know anything." Right?
"I will watch it with him."
- Is that right? - "I will watch it with him."
What you said is Hyeun Young's song.
- I don't know anything - I don't know anything
(Embarrassed)
"I will watch it with him."
- He was distracted. - Right.
(He's pretending to focus while thinking of something else.)
You shouldn't have said it. You only upset her.
Nevertheless, I love that side of him.
- He's charming. - Thank you.
There must be a woman like me somewhere.
Shall we hear the song that Sang Hyuk chose?
("Undefeatable" by Click-B, a message of confronting the world)
Can you sing this song alone?
He chose "Undefeatable" by Click-B.
You've been knocked down three times already.
Will you be okay?
It's true that I've been knocked down many times.
- Can you sing this alone? - Exactly.
In fact,
this song enabled my group Click-B to become famous.
As this song was ranked top on music charts,
Click-B lasted longer.
Also, since I'm starting the second chapter of my life,
I hope that I will become successful.
Let's hear "Undefeatable".
You can do it.
It'll be hard.
- You can do it. - He's so handsome when he's quiet.
I can't stay quiet all the time. I can hear you, Soo Young.
- He can hear us. - He heard me.
I'm excited.
Can we look forward to it?
(His dance movements became smaller.)
(Whatever I do, I never lose)
He's off beat.
(Bowing)
(Is he apologizing for missing the beat?)
(I've got to get it, get it no more)
(He sings loudly only when he remembers the lyrics.)
(I've got to hit it, hit it)
(He's singing off beat and out of tune just as he did back then.)
(I have nowhere to hide)
(I have no energy left to run away)
(He looks serious as if he's giving a speech.)
(The shout towards the world!)
(I tell only the truth.)
(Failure)
(He's struggling to become undefeatable.)
(Just wait and see!)
(Don't be afraid and get up)
(He was a trendy boy at the time.)
(But he went through all sorts of hardships.)
(He's telling himself who's starting the 2nd chapter of his life.)
(Try and face it)
(Now take over the world)
(He sings his heart out.)
- I'm sorry! - Don't be.
(He apologizes habitually.)
Don't be. You did well.
He let go of all the pent up emotions.
What is your part in this song?
I sing in the part that we all sing together.
Hit it, hit it
- Oh, that part? - Yes.
- Don't you feel much better now? - Yes.
This song is the exact opposite to how your life has been until now.
I think it's a good sign.
I'll start the second chapter of my life bravely.
Please watch me.
- That's great. - Right.
Today's theme was...
"The Boys And Girls We Used to Love".
We laughed a lot early in the 2000s thanks to you.
To make Radio Star a program that people will miss in the future,
we'll fill the empty seat quickly and continue working hard.
We will say goodbye here. See you next week.
- Please. - Please.
(See you again next week!)